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February 12, 2007

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John, I always appreciate your openness to new forms of church which more effectively connect with people who find traditional forms leave them cold.

The topic of U2 Eucharists came up recently on Church Rater so I have posted about this blog entry on there:

http://www.churchrater.com/2007/02/12/comments-on-a-u2-eucharist/

I wish I had been there.

I get more out of U2 than many less significant worship forms and I'm not even YOUNG.

Older than John am I.

But, I love this. Let's go for it. It's what must be. Pastor Tom is tearing up the old wineskins for the new. Good for him.

John,

I am sure that much discussion will go on with regard this kind of post-modern service - U2 Eucharist, et al. And I do not doubt that there is a real concern for on the part of your pastor for reaching the lost. But if I could share some candid thoughts...

First, a few months ago an Episcopal Church here began advertising a U2charist - and I was a bit skeptical. This church is really not very orthodox doctrinally - I believe that you would agree. So I was a bit skeptical.

Second, calling something a U2 Eucharist seems to put the attention up front fron more on human beings than Christ - maybe not, but shouldn't the focus be on Christ - not me or any one else - or group (kind of like having the Dave Martin Study Bible - I really don't think my name should be on that).

Third, I am skeptical of anything that is trendy - as so many things are in the religious world. Someone writes a book about a new way to do church or prayer and now everyone has just got to try it. Going back to some of the ancient practices of the church may not be a bad idea - but isn't there a danger in turning what might have been a meaningful thing in one context into a "program" that churches all over America will start doing (which is apparently what is happening)?

Finally, as much as I do not want to personally criticize your pastor (he sounds like a very committed Christian)didn't he take Luther's words out of context? Surely Luther was was referring to communicating the Word in German rather than Latin -which literally would not be understood at all? After all, even parents with "post-modern" children can still communicate with them, can they not? Surley Post-moderns are not confused by the language of the older generation in the same sense that common Germans were confused by Latin.

One more thing. I often wonder if every generation has been a bit "post-modern" in relation to the pervious generation. If that is so, how was this handled repeatedly in Church History = by everyone from Augustine to Luther to now?

Just some thoughts.

David Martin
Macon, Georgia

John,

Thanks for the comments. I had read about this type of service before, but I didn't know of any church personally that was doing it... until now. You see, this used to be my former church many, many, many, many, many years ago. Actually, my parents still attend there. Perhaps it’s ironic, but I'm now a member of UBF and live near our Chicago center. I even commented on your post after you recently attended and spoke at our Fellowship Leader's Conference (small world).

I attended the Christmas Eve service at LCM with my parents this past December, and during that service, Pastor Tom used a video from Frankie Goes To Hollywood for their song "The Power of Love." That happened to be one of my favorite songs by them (yes, I'm stuck in the 80’s), both musically and lyrically. What’s more, I told Pastor Tom after the service that in all the years I had heard it I had never seen the video or knew how strong the Christian overtones in it. If you haven’t seen it, it sets to music the story of the Magi coming to worship Jesus.

While I am still a “traditionalist” at heart, and I don't particularly care for pop culture in the church, these things do show me one thing, and that is that God can and does use any means to convey the gospel. In fact, with an attentive ear and knowledge of the Scriptures, we can find many, many instances of where mention of God and the Bible have found their way into pop culture (Peter Gabriel’s music often refers to Biblical themes, i.e., his song entitled “More Than This.”). I’m sure we could cite many other examples as well.

Without dragging this on and on, I wish to conclude by saying that I am glad for the write-up, and the personal, albeit weird connection in all of this. I’m very thankful to know Pastor Tom personally (he happens to be my parent’s next door neighbors as well), and I’m glad for his work at LCM. I believe God is using him and this ministry to open more doors for the gospel to be preached. May God’s blessings be with him, and thanks again to you for the article.


Until He Returns,
Darren

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